Visuals at Shadow

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:37 pm

Although there are differing views on Shadows performance, I'd assume we can all agree the visuals looked rad?
Why don't more events, even club nights do something similar?
All Shadow was using for visuals were clips made for his tunes (basically music videos) which were burned onto DVD to use with the DVDJs and some colour matched lighting.
I realise most venues don't have DVDJ's as standard and are in no rush to replace their cdj's, but I'd love to see this kind of thing more often.

stovequeen · Post by **stovequeen** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:39 pm

Stray wrote:Although there are differing views on Shadows performance, I'd assume we can all agree the visuals looked rad?
Why don't more events, even club nights do something similar?
All Shadow was using for visuals were clips made for his tunes (basically music videos) which were burned onto DVD to use with the DVDJs and some colour matched lighting.
I realise most venues don't have DVDJ's as standard and are in no rush to replace their cdj's, but I'd love to see this kind of thing more often.

me too.. the rig probably costs a bomb tho

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:47 pm

Well you could get away with a pair of DVDJ's, a mixer and a projector.
Do any clubs actually have DVDJ's?
Is the only advantage of DVDJ's over CDJ's their ability to output video as well as audio?

munt beard · Post by **munt beard** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:50 pm

thats' a pretty big advantage.
I'd imagine you needs a special mixer to deal with the images as well. a trad DJ mixer only has audio inouts.

Ag3nT[]0raNg3 · Post by **Ag3nT[]0raNg3** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:50 pm

yeah u need a video mixer.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 3:55 pm

video mixers are fucking cool
i used to play with one for teriyaki at hi fi a long time ago
we had a data projector with real time overhead too, so you could take pics of the crowd and project it real time

was awesome.

the projectors the used at shadow last night were high end tho,
serious fucking output.....but they made the shitty venue so so much better...

i still missed the visuals of him and what he was doin tho...

Hatsudai · Post by **Hatsudai** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:04 pm

Stray wrote:Well you could get away with a pair of DVDJ's, a mixer and a projector.
Do any clubs actually have DVDJ's?
Is the only advantage of DVDJ's over CDJ's their ability to output video as well as audio?

last time i checked DVDJ's are about $5000+ for one. A video mixer is about a grand and a decent projector 2000+

I'ts a pricy set up thats for sure....

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:06 pm

I love what lounge does with their projectors.. makes a big difference to the atomsphere in that room.
I remember going to Collision and they would have cartoons, mostly simpsons, if I remember correctly, projected onto one of the walls.
I always thought that was cool.

Feigan · Post by **Feigan** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:07 pm

Stray wrote:Well you could get away with a pair of DVDJ's, a mixer and a projector.
Do any clubs actually have DVDJ's?
Is the only advantage of DVDJ's over CDJ's their ability to output video as well as audio?

Room has them i think

mr lob · Post by **mr lob** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:14 pm

Some shots of the visuals at Shadow although I was up the back they are ok!

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:21 pm

^^ those look good, but I'd say they were 100X better IRL (for those that weren't there)

James (VJ Tripamine) uses a DVDJ (I think he hires it) and video mixer with a PC as well. The projector last night would've been FUCKING $$EXXY very high output + those wide-angle lenses aren't cheap either.

The advantage of a dvdj that is used by the actual DJ is great as he can then have audio tracks with synced video (like a film clip). Where as a seperate VJ can't really do that.

I saw Jeff Mills use a DVDJ at Metro a few years ago. It was radness

(not as good as shadow though)

aspekt · Post by **aspekt** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:26 pm

yeah they were totally awesome.
visuals that are well crafted and fairly insync with the music make a world of difference, especially when it's too packed to move.

he had his sampler pad hooked up to video loops of an instructional drumming video at the forum all those years ago. fucking awesome.

i would imagine it's pretty expensive just to have the video created, especially for a weekly club night when the same clips would be played on a regualr basis. the problem is that it's an extra cost for promoters and isn't really going to attract enough extra punters to make it worthwhile =(

shepherd · Post by **shepherd** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:33 pm

i think stray has a point ... but my perspective is visuals are expensive and as I've said before, they don't bring heads in the door.

HOWEVER - Ghetto Fabulous used to (they may still do) have a great visual guy who worked off one laptop and did some cool stuff ... so it shows you don't need loads of people/equipment/spend to make it good.

however from a patron point of view visuals can be a bit overwhelming for a whole night

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:37 pm

What would be nice is if you could purchase tracks on DVD that include their own music video that you could then play on a DVDJ.
Such as buying Shadow tracks and they include the same visuals that we saw last night.

Stray · Post by **Stray** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:51 pm

Oh snap. Ableton 6 has video support.

"Like WAV or MP3 files, QuickTime movie files can be dragged from the Live Browser into the Arrangement, where they show up as clips. A video window displays the clip's video, which can also be shown full screen on a second monitor..."

So.. I could DJ and VJ at the same time!

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 4:58 pm

^^^ dude, that sound's pretty fucking sweet

witty_pseudonym · Post by **witty_pseudonym** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:59 pm

how i wish i had a camera.

visuals were AMAZING!!!

a feast for the ears and eyes.

PahMaLa · Post by **PahMaLa** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 5:59 pm

Kewl!

Zero Hour · Post by **Zero Hour** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 6:42 pm

JohnnyNostars does visuals at Soulskool......plops the Laptop on stage and plugs into a projector + we have a big screen on stage. Looks wicked and its really not as compicated as its been made out to be....a little effort goes a long way. The venue layout helps though.

johnnynostars · Post by **johnnynostars** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 7:29 pm

Zero Hour wrote:JohnnyNostars does visuals at Soulskool......plops the Laptop on stage and plugs into a projector + we have a big screen on stage. Looks wicked and its really not as compicated as its been made out to be....a little effort goes a long way. The venue layout helps though.

That's NAS (No Attention Span) by the way. Don't spoil the illusion.

It's really more of stuff to look at than a complement to the music, like what y'all describe Shadow's stuff to be. It is fun though!

tappy · Post by **tappy** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 8:14 pm

DVJs cost farken heaps!!. other options aren't so bad but the main problem is the projection. Good screens cost heaps and are a bitch to set up (if you get a venue big enough) and good projectors cost even more. Shadow's visual set-up might be "simple but effective" but would cost way more than any local crew could afford... having said that, alot of VJs are doin their best

deviant · Post by **deviant** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 9:26 pm

tappy wrote:DVJs cost farken heaps!!. other options aren't so bad but the main problem is the projection. Good screens cost heaps and are a bitch to set up (if you get a venue big enough) and good projectors cost even more. Shadow's visual set-up might be "simple but effective" but would cost way more than any local crew could afford... having said that, alot of VJs are doin their best

did you check out shadow james? if not then you should. very impressive.

B0mBjAcK · Post by **B0mBjAcK** » Wed Jul 26, 2006 11:35 pm

Those photos look pretty good, must have been pretty mad. I remember when I saw him when he came out last time and he did his pusshing buttons with visuals was fckn crazy wikkid mad.

LÃ³s Kasinoâ€” · Thu Jul 27, 2006 1:52 am

johnnynostars wrote:
Zero Hour wrote:JohnnyNostars does visuals at Soulskool......plops the Laptop on stage and plugs into a projector + we have a big screen on stage. Looks wicked and its really not as compicated as its been made out to be....a little effort goes a long way. The venue layout helps though.
That's NAS (No Attention Span) by the way. Don't spoil the illusion.

It's really more of stuff to look at than a complement to the music, like what y'all describe Shadow's stuff to be. It is fun though!

BUSTED!! yea mad props to visuals... can make a whole lot of difference to the vibe of things, the cherry on top, what not.

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:23 am

Those visuals had me oohing and aahing all night and really added to the gig for me

Fucking awesome

Little Evil · Post by **Little Evil** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:26 am

gnat wrote:Those visuals had me oohing and aahing all night and really added to the gig for me

Fucking awesome

Fucking spewing I missed it.

Have put all my money into gigs lately, and have no time.
Bummed out hard.

Glad you all had a good time though.

Not as good as last time though hey?

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:33 am

Little Evil wrote:
gnat wrote:Those visuals had me oohing and aahing all night and really added to the gig for me

Fucking awesome
Fucking spewing I missed it.
Have put all my money into gigs lately, and have no time.
Bummed out hard.

Glad you all had a good time though.
Not as good as last time though hey?

Not a good time to tell you then that we had two spare tix in our pockets all night that we couldn't give away...

Little Evil · Post by **Little Evil** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:38 am

gnat wrote:
Little Evil wrote:
gnat wrote:Those visuals had me oohing and aahing all night and really added to the gig for me

Fucking awesome
Fucking spewing I missed it.
Have put all my money into gigs lately, and have no time.
Bummed out hard.

Glad you all had a good time though.
Not as good as last time though hey?
Not a good time to tell you then that we had two spare tix in our pockets all night that we couldn't give away...

Ohhh, c'mon man.
You serious!!
Nat! (Evil bangs his head on desk with disapointment, and curses the gods for his lack of funds right now)
Evil's day has just shit itself on about 8 different fronts.

(He's my fave, just in case I haven't told everyone before - no big deal tho.

)

Serioussly tho, it's all good. I had to practice anyway for Friday.
Hijack - Hope to see you there Natola!

gnat · Post by **gnat** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 10:55 am

Little Evil wrote:
gnat wrote:
Little Evil wrote: Fucking spewing I missed it.
Have put all my money into gigs lately, and have no time.
Bummed out hard.

Glad you all had a good time though.
Not as good as last time though hey?
Not a good time to tell you then that we had two spare tix in our pockets all night that we couldn't give away...
Ohhh, c'mon man.
You serious!!
Nat! (Evil bangs his head on desk with disapointment, and curses the gods for his lack of funds right now)
Evil's day has just shit itself on about 8 different fronts.

(He's my fave, just in case I haven't told everyone before - no big deal tho. )

Serioussly tho, it's all good. I had to practice anyway for Friday.
Hijack - Hope to see you there Natola!

Serious! We were calling people and texting- free ticket to Shadow! But if people don't answer their phones what can I do?

I'm sure practising was equally amazing though

See ya soon anal cleft

killeye · Post by **killeye** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 11:48 am

T I C K A wrote:
johnnynostars wrote:
Zero Hour wrote:JohnnyNostars does visuals at Soulskool......plops the Laptop on stage and plugs into a projector + we have a big screen on stage. Looks wicked and its really not as compicated as its been made out to be....a little effort goes a long way. The venue layout helps though.
That's NAS (No Attention Span) by the way. Don't spoil the illusion.

It's really more of stuff to look at than a complement to the music, like what y'all describe Shadow's stuff to be. It is fun though!
BUSTED!! yea mad props to visuals... can make a whole lot of difference to the vibe of things, the cherry on top, what not.

Shadow's visuals may have been good, but Shadow doesn't have Steve Coogan air drumming

tappy · Post by **tappy** » Thu Jul 27, 2006 4:44 pm

nah dan, I didnt go, I'm a bit over that kind of music at the moment *gasp* and i fuckn HATE the palace! (probably the main reason I didnt go actually). But saw him at the forum last time and was mightily impressed.

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