dubstep

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:02 pm

someone told me the new JT album has a dubstep-like beat on it.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:46 am

So where is dubstep at now, a few years into it?

Interesting doco here - (pretty basic intro to it really)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHaCSMJfGUA

Who are the people coming through now? Is there a whole generation of dubstep producers making their own mark?

Direkt · Post by **Direkt** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:52 am

DBoy wrote:So where is dubstep at now, a few years into it?

My Mum told me, "if you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all", so...

No comment.

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:23 pm

yeah ok thanks for that Mark....

anyway new burial album is comming out soon, I've heard a preview of it and it's pretty amamzing. It's a firth beutiful minimal tech/2-step/ambient/dubstep hybrid. Pretty much unclasifiably which is usually a good sign. Re-hashing alot of the same sound pallet, or very similar, but its good enough to get away with. It's more uplifting than the first, but at the same time the production aesthetics are alot darker I think, it's messier and less accesable in many ways. Sounds like not much else i've heard before.

As far as more DJ oriented stuff, Bristo/pinchl camps are really pushing it for me at the moment. Headhunter, appleblim, pinch, Peverelist, and 2536 or whatever his name is. Pinch got a new album comming out 'Underwater Dancehall', have heard a handful of bits bit not all of it. Geiom album out, asian flavours pretty fucken nice.

Also expect big things for aussie dubstep - two labels starting up. One from the garage pressure and moving ninja camp, will be an international label but will do great things for Aus dubstep aswell. The first release is a very big track. I'm also starting up a label with another 2 peeps from sydney, stricktly 'oceania' dubstep. Debut complotation with bout 14 artists, very very diverse range of talent, few big names and a few you might not have heard of yet. The scope and quality of the tracks is fantastic. May I jus say in advance that I greatly appreciate all your support in buying the first release and comming to the laiunch party and getting messy

!

Dubstep has kidna split in two really at the moment, there is a little bit of a core sound that has developed, and people are replicating it to an extent. This happens with every genre so no biggie I guess. The main thing is, for me anyway, there are still shitloads of producers pushing in all different directions. Lines are blured between techno, 2step, tribalish stuff, IDM, dancehall. That majority of shit is still unsigned though, but It's not a huge issue because you can still hear it in mixes, radio, everyone is pretty keen to send out 320's, still nice freindly comunity vibe.

Also there is an article comming up in cyclic defrost magazine on Australian dubstep and the roll of underground 320 trading for the develoment of the scene etc.

and now for the weather, Tom...

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:40 pm

Tom is smoking crack, so there'll be no weather for the next 2 days.

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:44 pm

black star wrote:Tom is smoking crack, so there'll be no weather for the next 2 days.

did i miss the 5 o'clock free crack give away?

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:54 pm

Does it still all have the out of time swagger thing going on?

I would love the hear some running 4/4 'dubstep'.

Does it exist?

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:56 pm

almax wrote:
black star wrote:Tom is smoking crack, so there'll be no weather for the next 2 days.
did i miss the 5 o'clock free crack give away?

Considering its not quite 2pm - you way out. sure your not smoking the 1pm give away.

almax · Post by **almax** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:02 pm

i just shat in my pants

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:03 pm

The newest 2 releases by 2562 on tectonic have a 'housey' type feel jbs, more legible less drunken ketamine binge off kilter beats.

i like alot, more of.

Channel Two/Circulate

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:11 pm

almax wrote:i just shat in my pants

quoted for posterior - I menean posterity

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:15 pm

jbs wrote:Does it still all have the out of time swagger thing going on?

I would love the hear some running 4/4 'dubstep'.

Does it exist?

TRG, Pangea, our own D.L.I, and alot of the bristol stuff I'm talking about, working with a more direct beat.

10.15 · Post by **10.15** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 6:26 pm

deviant wrote:BUT, it has a HUGELY distinctive sound. I couldn't figure out how something that is SOOO similar to so many other things could sound so unique. I figured that it was tapping into a tempo area that no other genre can sit at comfortably.

Dubstep sits around 150bpm which is a pretty odd tempo and untouchable by other genres without sounding awkward. the half-time feel is also slower than most hip-hop. At around 75 it's pretty damn slow.

I thought this was interesting, I'm interested to hear what you guys think.

Hey Dan I've had some success mixing dubstep with ghettotech and kuduro tunes. You gotta pick carefully, a lot just don't work with dubstep but the tempos are about the same and it can work really well.

DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 7:54 pm

Always saw the potential for dubstep to blur the lines. The minimal elements are very appealing to me, in the same way the minimal detriot sound was the best of the techno sounds for my taste. The ability to go from a 4 to the floor sound to a totally off beat almost idm sound with elements of dub and dancehall (all with that dark atmosphere) is something I would love to hear more off. Who is on that tip?

spiral · Post by **spiral** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 8:39 pm

DBoy wrote: The ability to go from a 4 to the floor sound to a totally off beat almost idm sound with elements of dub and dancehall (all with that dark atmosphere) is something I would love to hear more off. Who is on that tip?

sounds like 1992 all over again

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:19 pm

DBoy wrote:Always saw the potential for dubstep to blur the lines. The minimal elements are very appealing to me, in the same way the minimal detriot sound was the best of the techno sounds for my taste. The ability to go from a 4 to the floor sound to a totally off beat almost idm sound with elements of dub and dancehall (all with that dark atmosphere) is something I would love to hear more off. Who is on that tip?

I would pay to hear as well.

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:30 pm

nic wrote:
DBoy wrote:Always saw the potential for dubstep to blur the lines. The minimal elements are very appealing to me, in the same way the minimal detriot sound was the best of the techno sounds for my taste. The ability to go from a 4 to the floor sound to a totally off beat almost idm sound with elements of dub and dancehall (all with that dark atmosphere) is something I would love to hear more off. Who is on that tip?
I would pay to hear as well.

listen to appleblim, pinch and headhunter sets pon rinse fm et al.

They are playing exactly just what you are describeing I recon.

L-J · Post by **L-J** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 9:31 pm

headhunter has got techno written all over it. some of bengas bits of his album would stretch that far too

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Thu Nov 01, 2007 10:28 pm

http://files.robotfreq.com/headhunter@F ... 160607.mp3

Headhunter Live @ Freakcamp.
from earlier this year, recomended

almax · Post by **almax** » Fri Nov 02, 2007 8:22 pm

flippo wrote:http://files.robotfreq.com/headhunter@F ... 160607.mp3

Headhunter Live @ Freakcamp.
from earlier this year, recomended

linky no good

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 10:48 am

deng

I'll get back to yooz

same o · Post by **same o** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 1:25 pm

jbs wrote:Does it still all have the out of time swagger thing going on?

I would love the hear some running 4/4 'dubstep'.

Does it exist?

there is heaps of like rave electro sortta dubstep, that i am lovin by dudes like rusko.. and then there is like minimal techno shit by like 2562

same o · Post by **same o** » Sat Nov 03, 2007 4:03 pm

have a listen to this if u want to hear some more of the running sortta shit..

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2007/11/cas ... ember.html

it's caspa b2b rusko on rinse fm.. bout half way through is just bangers
some are a bit to much but i like most of dem

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:09 am

sAme'0 wrote:have a listen to this if u want to hear some more of the running sortta shit..

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2007/11/cas ... ember.html

it's caspa b2b rusko on rinse fm.. bout half way through is just bangers
some are a bit to much but i like most of dem

Woah.

Not what I meant at all.

Like Dubstep-Rave!

Post by **fooishbar** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 11:35 am

jbs wrote:
sAme'0 wrote:have a listen to this if u want to hear some more of the running sortta shit..

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2007/11/cas ... ember.html

it's caspa b2b rusko on rinse fm.. bout half way through is just bangers
some are a bit to much but i like most of dem
Woah.

Not what I meant at all.

Like Dubstep-Rave!

yeah, that's ravestep. night and day different from the bristol sound, believe. check out any pinch or appleblim mixes.

RMHC · Post by **RMHC** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:35 pm

Check out Jimmy edgar, its detroit step

tracks LBLBdetroit and colorstrip warren for the win

www.myspace.com/colorstrip

same o · Post by **same o** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 7:54 pm

jbs wrote:
sAme'0 wrote:have a listen to this if u want to hear some more of the running sortta shit..

http://rinsefm.blogspot.com/2007/11/cas ... ember.html

it's caspa b2b rusko on rinse fm.. bout half way through is just bangers
some are a bit to much but i like most of dem
Woah.

Not what I meant at all.

Like Dubstep-Rave!

there doing the next fabric live.. which will be interesting...
i dont mind the shit personally...
but i atm i am lovin anti social stuff, dudes like quest silkie and henny g..
it almost makes u cry it got so much emotion behinde it

Post by **fooishbar** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:30 pm

yeah, hopefully people realise there's loads of different styles: pure tearout, sub medi (hello loefah), some deeper tip, drumstep, dubby, metalstep (distance), etc, etc.

L-J · Post by **L-J** » Mon Nov 05, 2007 9:35 pm

LOL @ Dubstep having sub genres already

On another note. that headhunter EP has gotta be the best 1 ive heard in a while

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:01 am

yeah i know, i hadnt heard all dem different sub genre names...

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:15 am

I think Fooish just made all them up

. I know what he's talking about though.

Post by **system** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:32 am

you say pigeon, i say hole.

same o · Post by **same o** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:15 am

flippo wrote:I think Fooish just made all them up . I know what he's talking about though.

as do i, is techno dubstep called techstep.. lolz

Blaxter · Post by **Blaxter** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:17 am

flippo wrote:I think Fooish just made all them up . I know what he's talking about though.

I think I know what he's talking through.

Post by **fooishbar** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:51 am

flippo wrote:I think Fooish just made all them up . I know what he's talking about though.

why would you have 'official' subgenre names anyway. it's just a vague 'oh yeah this sounds like a load of other similar tunes'.

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 2:33 pm

jbs, Dboy et al., wrap your bum around this unit >

dq wrote:The Dub War Podcast series continues to explore the hidden reaches of the sound with a new mix by Punch Drunk boss Peverelist.

Get It

This is a cavedwelling 45 minutes of deepness including loads of new things from the Punch Drunk camp and fellow Bristolians mixed for optimal meditation business.

Go to iTunes music store and search Dub War NYC to subscribe. It's free, and you can have the latest installment automatically downloaded each time. The podcast is meant to be different from recorded radio mixes, with artists exploring different aspects of the sound and creating something that people will hopefully want to return to for repeated listens.

Next one from Joe Nice! Enjoy...

Get It

Tracklisting:
Smith & Mighty 'B Line Fi Blow'
RSD 'Pretty Bright Light'
Gatekeeper 'Tense Past'
2562 'Kameleon'
Peverelist 'Infinity is Now'
Pinch 'untitled'
Peverelist & Appleblim 'Circling'
Pinch 'Whirl'
Pinch 'One Blood, One Source' feat Rudee Lee
Peverelist 'Roll with the Punches'
RSD 'Kingfisher'
Forsaken 'Boat Noodles'

Also for those using RSS readers you can subscribe here:
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DBoy · Post by **DBoy** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 3:09 pm

any options to get it with out itunes?

Post by **fooishbar** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:47 pm

yep, http://www.dqxt.org/dubwar/podcast/dubw ... relist.mp3

looks the goods, especially if pretty bright light is what i think it is. (also, basically all these guys are bristol, so if you liked pinch, then you'll like this.)

LÃ³s Kasinoâ€” · Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:37 pm

EVERYBODY LOVE TEH WOBBLE!!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D-NXeqFZHbY

dont shoot the messenger!

Post by **JAMESSSS** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:39 pm

Does everyone "meditate" to dubstep instead of dancing?

nic · Post by **nic** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 4:44 pm

on bass weight apparently

also taht dubwar podcast is excellent

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 5:03 pm

you mean pon bass weight

gaz · Post by **gaz** » Fri Nov 09, 2007 2:57 am

LÃ³s Kasinoâ€” wrote:EVERYBODY LOVE TEH WOBBLE!!!!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=D-NXeqFZHbY

dont shoot the messenger!

LOL biggup britnaay.. Your time

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 5:43 pm

jbs wrote:Does everyone "meditate" to dubstep instead of dancing?

you can generally jerk your body about in any way that takes your fancy.

No doubt soon someone will do some melbourne shuffling to it too, but we already have snipers ready for that.

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 6:10 pm

haha, there is a dubstep tune called the melbourne shuffle grookz

FoundationStepper · Post by **FoundationStepper** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:39 pm

ha i was gonna say that dub war reminded me of more rockers...

and the first track is by smith and mighty- go figure - i thought it was a vocal they used...

flippo · Post by **flippo** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:21 am

jbs wrote:Does everyone "meditate" to dubstep instead of dancing?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1kCDxfBl8w

lolz

grooki · Post by **grooki** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 10:42 am

flippo wrote:haha, there is a dubstep tune called the melbourne shuffle grookz

I presume the author has been, shall we say, taken care of?

FunkyJ · Post by **FunkyJ** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 11:32 am

There's some dubstep I really like.

I saw Benga in Adelaide and that was off the hook.

But maybe it's the (Adelaide) locals can't get hold of good stuff, but I find a lot of what they play to be slow and boring and I can't get into it.

I really want to support those guys though and that's not intended as a diss, because they're good blokes and it's hard to get a scene established in Adelaide.

ghetto kitty · Post by **ghetto kitty** » Fri Dec 28, 2007 12:00 pm

you should have been at caspa @ bass high @ laundry recently.

off the hook.

Melbourne Beats

dubstep

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